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Thursday, October 25, 2007
Wednesday, October 24, 2007
I wish I was in school, but my holster would have a gun
Because I would go directly to the jail or after a Bail Skip, I carried my gun with me to class all the time. I knew it was safer on me than in the car. I even got calls which I left class to go directly to where I would catch someone I was looking for and arrest them. These students have a point, they should be allowed to carry on campus.
Here is the story.
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Students Strap On Empty Holsters to Protest Gun Restrictions on Campus
Wednesday, October 24, 2007
By Melissa Underwood
Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,304806,00.html
College students across the country have been strapping empty holsters around their waists this week to protest laws that prohibit concealed weapons on campus, citing concerns over campus shootings.
"People who would otherwise be able to defend themselves are left defenseless when on campus," said Ethan Bratt, a graduate student wearing an empty holster this week on the campus of Seattle Pacific University.
Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, a group of college students, parents and citizens who organized after the deadly shootings at Virginia Tech University in April, launched the protest.
A national debate over gun laws on campus began in the wake of those shootings, in which a deranged student killed 32 people in a classroom building before committing suicide. It was the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history.
Campuses are prime targets for people intent on harming others because laws prohibit concealed weapons there, Bratt said.
But others believe college is no place for firearms.
"You don't like the fact that you can't have a gun on your college campus? Drop out of school," said Peter Hamm, a spokesman for the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.
When someone pulls out a gun and starts firing in a crowded environment, it's more likely that additional victims will be harmed, Hamm said.
"Let's be grateful that those holsters are empty," he said.
• Click here to visit the Students for Concealed Carry on Campus Web site.
• Click here to visit the Brady Center's Web site.
A group of 12 students chose to wear empty holsters to class this week at the University of Idaho as part of the nationwide protest.
Aled Baker, a junior, said he loses his constitutional right to protect himself and others when he steps on campus.
"It's null and void when you go on campus," the mechanical engineering student said.
Baker, a sportsman and hunter, has a license to carry a concealed handgun and hopes the protest will get people talking about the issue.
University policies nationwide prohibit carrying concealed handguns on campuses.
"We do not allow weapons on campus for the safety and security of our student body and faculty," said Tracy Schario, spokeswoman for George Washington University in Washington, D.C.
Justin Turner, a senior in criminology and history at Florida State University, also wants the ability to carry a concealed handgun on campus.
"I'm hoping that people actually realize that this is something that college students are serious about moving forward and realize that it's not about taking the law into your own hands; it's about taking personal responsibility for yourself," said Turner, chairman of the Florida State chapter of Students for the Second Amendment.
Congress is considering legislation that would tighten background checks and give states funding to submit information to a national database that would prevent guns from being sold to dangerous buyers. House lawmakers passed the legislation, but it remains in the Senate.
"It fixes the problem that the states are not submitting the necessary records of people who have been found by a court to be dangerously mentally ill," Hamm said.
Family members and survivors of the Virginia Tech shootings recently visited members of Congress to urge lawmakers to pass the legislation they believe could help prevent future tragedies.
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Again, I carried in school, and I knew a few others that did too. What bugged us was the fact that we were able to get in trouble for doing such. Virginia Tech was not the first nor will it be the last (already has happened again) school shooting to happen. Allow permit holders to carry where they roam. It makes the world safer for all of us.
Here is the story.
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Students Strap On Empty Holsters to Protest Gun Restrictions on Campus
Wednesday, October 24, 2007
By Melissa Underwood
Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,304806,00.html
College students across the country have been strapping empty holsters around their waists this week to protest laws that prohibit concealed weapons on campus, citing concerns over campus shootings.
"People who would otherwise be able to defend themselves are left defenseless when on campus," said Ethan Bratt, a graduate student wearing an empty holster this week on the campus of Seattle Pacific University.
Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, a group of college students, parents and citizens who organized after the deadly shootings at Virginia Tech University in April, launched the protest.
A national debate over gun laws on campus began in the wake of those shootings, in which a deranged student killed 32 people in a classroom building before committing suicide. It was the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history.
Campuses are prime targets for people intent on harming others because laws prohibit concealed weapons there, Bratt said.
But others believe college is no place for firearms.
"You don't like the fact that you can't have a gun on your college campus? Drop out of school," said Peter Hamm, a spokesman for the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.
When someone pulls out a gun and starts firing in a crowded environment, it's more likely that additional victims will be harmed, Hamm said.
"Let's be grateful that those holsters are empty," he said.
• Click here to visit the Students for Concealed Carry on Campus Web site.
• Click here to visit the Brady Center's Web site.
A group of 12 students chose to wear empty holsters to class this week at the University of Idaho as part of the nationwide protest.
Aled Baker, a junior, said he loses his constitutional right to protect himself and others when he steps on campus.
"It's null and void when you go on campus," the mechanical engineering student said.
Baker, a sportsman and hunter, has a license to carry a concealed handgun and hopes the protest will get people talking about the issue.
University policies nationwide prohibit carrying concealed handguns on campuses.
"We do not allow weapons on campus for the safety and security of our student body and faculty," said Tracy Schario, spokeswoman for George Washington University in Washington, D.C.
Justin Turner, a senior in criminology and history at Florida State University, also wants the ability to carry a concealed handgun on campus.
"I'm hoping that people actually realize that this is something that college students are serious about moving forward and realize that it's not about taking the law into your own hands; it's about taking personal responsibility for yourself," said Turner, chairman of the Florida State chapter of Students for the Second Amendment.
Congress is considering legislation that would tighten background checks and give states funding to submit information to a national database that would prevent guns from being sold to dangerous buyers. House lawmakers passed the legislation, but it remains in the Senate.
"It fixes the problem that the states are not submitting the necessary records of people who have been found by a court to be dangerously mentally ill," Hamm said.
Family members and survivors of the Virginia Tech shootings recently visited members of Congress to urge lawmakers to pass the legislation they believe could help prevent future tragedies.
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Again, I carried in school, and I knew a few others that did too. What bugged us was the fact that we were able to get in trouble for doing such. Virginia Tech was not the first nor will it be the last (already has happened again) school shooting to happen. Allow permit holders to carry where they roam. It makes the world safer for all of us.
Tuesday, October 23, 2007
NICE
Why Guns Make the World Safer
Monday, October 22, 2007
By Greg Gutfeld
Fox News
In Alabama, a couple named Adrian and Tiffany McKinnon came home to find their house had been burgled. The thieves left piles of trash everywhere. After his wife left, Adrian went back into the house, walking right into one of the burglars, who was wearing Adrian's hat. Adrian not only held the man at gunpoint (or "fun-point," as I like to call it), he forced the thief to clean up the mess. When the police arrived, the thief complained about this, unaware that he had avoided another option: death.
As anyone who's been robbed knows, it's the mess left behind that's just as bad as being robbed. I wouldn't hate being robbed so much if the thieves would have a little common courtesy to put back the stuff they don't want. There's nothing worse than trying to retrieve a figurine from the toilet. At least, I hope that was a figurine.
But really, I love this story because it reveals the magical, healing powers of firearms. The fact is, if you want bad people to stop being bad, just point a loaded firearm at them — you can actually get them to clean your house. This is the only scientific proof you need that handguns — in the hands of good people — make the world a safer place.
And frankly, the thief was lucky. If it were up to me, I would have made him do my linens and clean the grout in between my bathroom tiles with his tongue. But first, I'd force him into a French maid costume. I have four of them in different sizes just in case the opportunity presents itself.
Dass ist mein Darmgefuehl!
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Monday, October 22, 2007
By Greg Gutfeld
Fox News
In Alabama, a couple named Adrian and Tiffany McKinnon came home to find their house had been burgled. The thieves left piles of trash everywhere. After his wife left, Adrian went back into the house, walking right into one of the burglars, who was wearing Adrian's hat. Adrian not only held the man at gunpoint (or "fun-point," as I like to call it), he forced the thief to clean up the mess. When the police arrived, the thief complained about this, unaware that he had avoided another option: death.
As anyone who's been robbed knows, it's the mess left behind that's just as bad as being robbed. I wouldn't hate being robbed so much if the thieves would have a little common courtesy to put back the stuff they don't want. There's nothing worse than trying to retrieve a figurine from the toilet. At least, I hope that was a figurine.
But really, I love this story because it reveals the magical, healing powers of firearms. The fact is, if you want bad people to stop being bad, just point a loaded firearm at them — you can actually get them to clean your house. This is the only scientific proof you need that handguns — in the hands of good people — make the world a safer place.
And frankly, the thief was lucky. If it were up to me, I would have made him do my linens and clean the grout in between my bathroom tiles with his tongue. But first, I'd force him into a French maid costume. I have four of them in different sizes just in case the opportunity presents itself.
Dass ist mein Darmgefuehl!
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Monday, October 22, 2007
A view most will never see
This is the beginning of a place I will not name, more so to protect people because this trail is know for killing many.
The location of this waterfall will actually prevent most people from ever seeing it. That is unless they are a very experienced off roader with a very good off road vehicle. The trail this is on has claimed more then twenty lives and destroyed even more vehicles.
Guns in Boulder CO.
Packing heat: Concealed-handgun permits on the rise
2003 law eases restrictions
By Heath Urie
Sunday, October 21, 2007
http://dailycamera.com/news/2007/oct/21/packing-heat-concealed-handgun-permits-on-the/?printer=1/
Whether tucked inside waistbands, slipped in jacket pockets or holstered around ankles, chances are most handguns being carried around Boulder County go unnoticed.
"You wouldn't know I'm carrying," said 46-year-old Longmont resident Rod Brandenburg, who occasionally packs a fully loaded .45-caliber Heckler & Koch pistol.
Brandenburg owns Grandpa's Pawn & Gun on Longmont's Main Street — the fourth-highest-volume gun dealer in Colorado — and is among the 1,462 people living in Boulder County who have a government permit to secretly arm themselves in public.
"When I take deposits to the bank — if it's a large deposit or a small deposit — I want to be able to protect it," Brandenburg said. "There's a reason our forefathers made the 'right to bear arms' the Second Amendment; it's very important."
In Boulder County, about one out of every 193 people have a permit to carry a concealed handgun, according to a report compiled by the Sheriff's Office. So far this year, 258 permits have been issued to Boulder County residents, already tying the highest number of permits issued by the sheriff since Colorado changed its concealed-carry laws four years ago.
Legislation passed in 2003 made Colorado a "shall-issue state," requir-ing county sheriff's offices to issue concealed-handgun permits to people who pass the necessary criminal background checks, pay a fee of $152.50, prove proficiency with a handgun through a safety class or prior experience and don't give authorities any reason to believe they might be a danger to themselves or to others.
Permits 'up
significantly' in Colo.
Susan Kitchen, a Colorado Bureau of Investigation agent in charge of the concealed-handgun background-check program, said she has seen interest in carrying concealed weapons spike in recent years.
"Based on the number of background checks we're performing, I would say they've gone up significantly," Kitchen said.
Permits per population
There is no requirement for the state to keep central records of the total number of active concealed-carry permits for each county. However, a Camera survey of several area counties found the following ratios of permit holders to population:
El Paso County: 1 in 71
Douglas County: 1 in 104
Larimer County: 1 in 106
Jefferson County: 1 in 117
Broomfield County: 1 in 150
Weld County: 1 in 189
Boulder County: 1 in 193
Denver County: 1 in 382
Statewide, a total of 27,370 concealed-handgun permits were issued to residents from 2003 to 2006, according to the County Sheriffs of Colorado, the organization tasked with tracking permit statistics for the state Legislature.
Of Colorado's 64 counties, Boulder County ranks 10th in the number of such permits issued from 2003 to 2006, with 966. However, the county is 55th in the ratio of permits issued over the four-year period to its total population of about 282,000 people.
Boulder County Sheriff Joe Pelle was instrumental in passing the 2003 legislation in his role as a member of the board of directors for the CBI Colorado Crime Information Center, just prior to being elected sheriff.
"We took a number of agency policies and sort of melded them together and started to negotiate (with the pro-gun lobby)," Pelle said. "It actually mirrors the old (Boulder) County policy in a lot of ways."
He said that, from a law-enforcement perspective, the current set of regulations is easier to manage than "inconsistent" former laws that varied across the state.
Some county sheriffs — prior to the 2003 laws, Pelle said — were charging "exorbitant" amounts of money to issue handgun permits to virtually anyone, while other agencies refused to hand out any permits at all.
"There were places that were permit mills," he said. "It was probably their main income. At least we've eliminated all of that, and it's a consistent set of rules statewide."
He said the majority of people who come to his office to apply for a permit say they're doing it "as an exercise of their Second Amendment rights — because they can."
Concealed-carry handgun permit restrictions
As a general rule, a concealed-handgun permit allows the carrier to wear the weapon in all areas of the state that are public, with a few specific restrictions as follows:
A permit does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law, such as on commercial airplanes.
A permit does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun onto the property of a public elementary, middle, junior high or high school. However, a permit holder may have a handgun on the property of the public school so long as the handgun remains in a vehicle and, if the permit holder is not in the vehicle, the handgun is in a compartment within the vehicle and the vehicle is locked.
A permit does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a public building at which: security personnel and electronic weapons screening devices are permanently in place at each entrance to the building; security personnel electronically screen each person who enters the building to determine whether the person is carrying a weapon of any kind; and security personnel require each person who is carrying a weapon of any kind to leave the weapon in possession of security personnel while the person is in the building.
Any private business can restrict weapons from being carried on private property.
The University of Colorado has banned all weapons from the campus. The Colorado Attorney General's Office has written an opinion that the CU regents can exercise that authority, despite the campus being a public facility.
Source: Colorado Revised Statutes
"We get very few people who come to us saying they need a permit for self-protection, that they're in fear," he said.
'It's the ones you don't
know about'
The people who receive permits and decide to use them, Pelle said, are usually not a concern to officers.
"Generally, people who take the time to go to class, learn the legalities and practical aspects of handling a gun, and who go to the trouble and expense to get a permit are law-abiding people who do not concern us," Pelle said. "There's a lot of people out there carrying guns, and believe me, they're not applying for permits. It's the ones you don't know about that are a bigger concern."
The number of crime victims who successfully use firearms to defend themselves is small, according to the FBI. In 2006, out of 14,990 Americans who died by gunfire, 195 were shot in justifiable homicides by private citizens with firearms, the FBI reported.
Ken Jones, a 41-year-old Longmont resident shopping for a gun at Grandpa's Pawn & Gun earlier this month, said he's glad to see more people applying for concealed-carry permits each year.
"I think people are responsible for their own safety," Jones said. "The people that are carrying concealed weapons are law-abiding citizens. They'd have to be; otherwise they wouldn't go out of their way to be scrutinized. The criminals are also aware of increased concealed-carry permits."
Ann Coakley, whose daughter was killed by an errant bullet in 1996 in Boulder, has worked to strengthen gun laws.
"People carrying guns do not make me feel any safer," Coakley said. "The man who killed my daughter had a concealed-carry permit. The man also taught gun safety. It didn't save my daughter's life."
Tom Mauser, whose son Daniel was killed in the Columbine High School shooting rampage in 1999, spoke out against the 2003 concealed-weapon law because he said it took "discretion" away from local sheriffs.
"I think (the issue of carrying concealed handguns is) going to be one of those things like a lot of issues in America — until there is an outright crisis, something that really gets attention, it's tough to bring about change," Mauser said.
Database lands sheriff
on 'hate-mail list'
The Boulder County sheriff successfully lobbied state lawmakers last year to extend a database accessible to sheriffs to input the names of permit holders. The database helps officers in the field identify those who carry handguns legally, he said, and helps him determine if someone needs to have a permit revoked or denied.
"Because I enter my (concealed-weapon) permit holders into the database, I have been notified on at least a dozen occasions of permit holders who have gone crazy and been taken to mental hospitals, taken to alcohol or addiction recovery centers and who have been arrested by the police," he said.
Applying for a concealed-handgun permit in Boulder County
Concealed-carry applications are available online at www.co.boulder.co.us/sheriff or at the Boulder County Sheriff's Office, 1777 Sixth St., or mailed applications can be requested by phone at 303-441-3994.
All completed applications must be turned in and signed at the Sheriff's Office in person. An appointment will then be scheduled to have a photograph and set of prints taken.
Permits are good for five years and can be renewed.
Also required:
$152.50 in fees to pay for local, state and national criminal history checks, fingerprinting services and other costs.
Proof of residency
Documentation demonstrating competence with a handgun, such as a copy of a training certificate proving completion of a handgun-safety class
To qualify, applicants:
Must be 21 or older, or at least 18 for a temporary, emergency permit
Must be eligible to possess a firearm under federal law
Must not have been convicted of perjury
Must not chronically and habitually use alcohol or be addicted to a controlled substance
Must not be subject to any restraining order
Source: Boulder County Sheriff's Office
Brian Malte, state legislative director for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence in Washington, D.C., agreed that the database is important.
"We feel very strongly that law enforcement not only needs access to those who have been issued concealed-handgun permits, but it needs to be readily available," Malte said. "There needs to be a swift and rapid system to revoke a license of someone who's fallen into a prohibited category."
For his legislative efforts, Pelle said he's been placed on a "hate-mail list" by pro-gun groups, including Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, the largest Colorado gun lobby.
Dudley Brown, executive director of the group, is critical of Pelle for his use of the permit database.
"We believe it's entering law-abiding citizens into a criminal database that makes them at grave risk to overzealous law enforcement, and it puts them in a very precarious situation," Brown said. "We'll be fighting for its repeal."
Brown, who said his organization believes "More guns means less crime," said Colorado is "in the middle of the pack" when it comes to gun legislation. He said carrying a concealed weapon is the "accepted means" of self-defense in the United States.
He said he thinks more and more people are getting concealed-carry permits in Colorado because it's now easier and more streamlined for people to do so.
"Clearly, the decade-long debate that ended in 2003 let a lot of people know that a concealed-weapon permit was an option, and a lot of people chose it," Brown said. "I believe the reason you see these kinds of numbers from Boulder County is that even liberals are starting to understand it's a civil right to be able to defend yourself."
Guns and students can
be 'a dangerous mix'
Brown and his pro-gun lobby also are critical of the University of Colorado regents, who have banned the carrying of firearms on the CU campus with the exception of police storage areas for students living in residence halls.
"We have challenged the regents to overturn that ban, not only for students but for visitors on campus," Brown said. "We think it's morally and ethically outrageous that they would deny a 23-year-old nursing student the right to defend herself when she gets out of a late-night class."
CU's policy prohibits the possession of any "dangerous or illegal weapon that could be an instrument of offensive or defensive combat; anything used or designed to be used in destroying, defeating or injuring a person; an instrument designed or likely to produce bodily harm; or an instrument by the use of which a fatal wound could be given."
CU police Cmdr. Brad Wiesley said he couldn't recall an incident in at least the past four years in which a person was caught carrying a concealed handgun on campus property.
Guns, by the numbers
1,462 Total number of active concealed-handgun permits in Boulder County.
258 Number of concealed-carry permits issued in Boulder County so far this year, and the most issued here during the past four years.
27,370 Total number of concealed permits issued in Colorado from 2003 to 2006.
10th Where Boulder County ranks statewide in the number of concealed-carry permits issued from 2003 to 2006. Per capita, Boulder County ranks 55th in permits issued during the same time period.
In August, however, 19-year-old CU student Matthew Furnish received one year of probation and was suspended from the university for two years after pleading guilty to unlawful conduct on public property in connection with a cache of weapons and ammunition police found in his dorm room.
Wiesley said students generally make good use of the police gun lockers that offer 24-hour access.
"If people want to engage in legal firearms-related activities, and they happen to live on campus, we want to be able to allow them to pursue their hobbies," Wiesley said. "We just don't want those weapons spread around campus in the residence halls or family housing."
All this week beginning Monday, college students from more than 110 campuses, including CU, plan to show up to classes wearing empty handgun holsters in protest of state laws and campus rules prohibiting the carrying of a concealed handgun on school grounds.
"Individuals who are licensed by their state to carry concealed handguns in places like movie theaters, office buildings, shopping malls and pretty much everywhere else should be afforded that same privilege on college campuses," said Scott Lewis, spokesman for Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, the national nonprofit group organizing the protest. "The practical point of the protest is to start a dialogue with people who may not be aware that concealed-carry laws exist, or that the laws are different on campus than they are elsewhere."
CU Regent Stephen Ludwig — an Aurora Democrat who, during his campaign for office last year, was critical of an endorsement given by the Pikes Peak Firearms Coalition to his Republican opponent, Brian Davidson — defended CU's gun policy as being "wise."
"Allowing concealed permits on campus invites a lot of problems," Ludwig said. "I think when you mix young people who are experimenting with alcohol, living in tight quarters, and firearms — I think that's a dangerous mix."
© 2006 Daily Camera and Boulder Publishing, LLC
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2003 law eases restrictions
By Heath Urie
Sunday, October 21, 2007
http://dailycamera.com/news/2007/oct/21/packing-heat-concealed-handgun-permits-on-the/?printer=1/
Whether tucked inside waistbands, slipped in jacket pockets or holstered around ankles, chances are most handguns being carried around Boulder County go unnoticed.
"You wouldn't know I'm carrying," said 46-year-old Longmont resident Rod Brandenburg, who occasionally packs a fully loaded .45-caliber Heckler & Koch pistol.
Brandenburg owns Grandpa's Pawn & Gun on Longmont's Main Street — the fourth-highest-volume gun dealer in Colorado — and is among the 1,462 people living in Boulder County who have a government permit to secretly arm themselves in public.
"When I take deposits to the bank — if it's a large deposit or a small deposit — I want to be able to protect it," Brandenburg said. "There's a reason our forefathers made the 'right to bear arms' the Second Amendment; it's very important."
In Boulder County, about one out of every 193 people have a permit to carry a concealed handgun, according to a report compiled by the Sheriff's Office. So far this year, 258 permits have been issued to Boulder County residents, already tying the highest number of permits issued by the sheriff since Colorado changed its concealed-carry laws four years ago.
Legislation passed in 2003 made Colorado a "shall-issue state," requir-ing county sheriff's offices to issue concealed-handgun permits to people who pass the necessary criminal background checks, pay a fee of $152.50, prove proficiency with a handgun through a safety class or prior experience and don't give authorities any reason to believe they might be a danger to themselves or to others.
Permits 'up
significantly' in Colo.
Susan Kitchen, a Colorado Bureau of Investigation agent in charge of the concealed-handgun background-check program, said she has seen interest in carrying concealed weapons spike in recent years.
"Based on the number of background checks we're performing, I would say they've gone up significantly," Kitchen said.
Permits per population
There is no requirement for the state to keep central records of the total number of active concealed-carry permits for each county. However, a Camera survey of several area counties found the following ratios of permit holders to population:
El Paso County: 1 in 71
Douglas County: 1 in 104
Larimer County: 1 in 106
Jefferson County: 1 in 117
Broomfield County: 1 in 150
Weld County: 1 in 189
Boulder County: 1 in 193
Denver County: 1 in 382
Statewide, a total of 27,370 concealed-handgun permits were issued to residents from 2003 to 2006, according to the County Sheriffs of Colorado, the organization tasked with tracking permit statistics for the state Legislature.
Of Colorado's 64 counties, Boulder County ranks 10th in the number of such permits issued from 2003 to 2006, with 966. However, the county is 55th in the ratio of permits issued over the four-year period to its total population of about 282,000 people.
Boulder County Sheriff Joe Pelle was instrumental in passing the 2003 legislation in his role as a member of the board of directors for the CBI Colorado Crime Information Center, just prior to being elected sheriff.
"We took a number of agency policies and sort of melded them together and started to negotiate (with the pro-gun lobby)," Pelle said. "It actually mirrors the old (Boulder) County policy in a lot of ways."
He said that, from a law-enforcement perspective, the current set of regulations is easier to manage than "inconsistent" former laws that varied across the state.
Some county sheriffs — prior to the 2003 laws, Pelle said — were charging "exorbitant" amounts of money to issue handgun permits to virtually anyone, while other agencies refused to hand out any permits at all.
"There were places that were permit mills," he said. "It was probably their main income. At least we've eliminated all of that, and it's a consistent set of rules statewide."
He said the majority of people who come to his office to apply for a permit say they're doing it "as an exercise of their Second Amendment rights — because they can."
Concealed-carry handgun permit restrictions
As a general rule, a concealed-handgun permit allows the carrier to wear the weapon in all areas of the state that are public, with a few specific restrictions as follows:
A permit does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law, such as on commercial airplanes.
A permit does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun onto the property of a public elementary, middle, junior high or high school. However, a permit holder may have a handgun on the property of the public school so long as the handgun remains in a vehicle and, if the permit holder is not in the vehicle, the handgun is in a compartment within the vehicle and the vehicle is locked.
A permit does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a public building at which: security personnel and electronic weapons screening devices are permanently in place at each entrance to the building; security personnel electronically screen each person who enters the building to determine whether the person is carrying a weapon of any kind; and security personnel require each person who is carrying a weapon of any kind to leave the weapon in possession of security personnel while the person is in the building.
Any private business can restrict weapons from being carried on private property.
The University of Colorado has banned all weapons from the campus. The Colorado Attorney General's Office has written an opinion that the CU regents can exercise that authority, despite the campus being a public facility.
Source: Colorado Revised Statutes
"We get very few people who come to us saying they need a permit for self-protection, that they're in fear," he said.
'It's the ones you don't
know about'
The people who receive permits and decide to use them, Pelle said, are usually not a concern to officers.
"Generally, people who take the time to go to class, learn the legalities and practical aspects of handling a gun, and who go to the trouble and expense to get a permit are law-abiding people who do not concern us," Pelle said. "There's a lot of people out there carrying guns, and believe me, they're not applying for permits. It's the ones you don't know about that are a bigger concern."
The number of crime victims who successfully use firearms to defend themselves is small, according to the FBI. In 2006, out of 14,990 Americans who died by gunfire, 195 were shot in justifiable homicides by private citizens with firearms, the FBI reported.
Ken Jones, a 41-year-old Longmont resident shopping for a gun at Grandpa's Pawn & Gun earlier this month, said he's glad to see more people applying for concealed-carry permits each year.
"I think people are responsible for their own safety," Jones said. "The people that are carrying concealed weapons are law-abiding citizens. They'd have to be; otherwise they wouldn't go out of their way to be scrutinized. The criminals are also aware of increased concealed-carry permits."
Ann Coakley, whose daughter was killed by an errant bullet in 1996 in Boulder, has worked to strengthen gun laws.
"People carrying guns do not make me feel any safer," Coakley said. "The man who killed my daughter had a concealed-carry permit. The man also taught gun safety. It didn't save my daughter's life."
Tom Mauser, whose son Daniel was killed in the Columbine High School shooting rampage in 1999, spoke out against the 2003 concealed-weapon law because he said it took "discretion" away from local sheriffs.
"I think (the issue of carrying concealed handguns is) going to be one of those things like a lot of issues in America — until there is an outright crisis, something that really gets attention, it's tough to bring about change," Mauser said.
Database lands sheriff
on 'hate-mail list'
The Boulder County sheriff successfully lobbied state lawmakers last year to extend a database accessible to sheriffs to input the names of permit holders. The database helps officers in the field identify those who carry handguns legally, he said, and helps him determine if someone needs to have a permit revoked or denied.
"Because I enter my (concealed-weapon) permit holders into the database, I have been notified on at least a dozen occasions of permit holders who have gone crazy and been taken to mental hospitals, taken to alcohol or addiction recovery centers and who have been arrested by the police," he said.
Applying for a concealed-handgun permit in Boulder County
Concealed-carry applications are available online at www.co.boulder.co.us/sheriff or at the Boulder County Sheriff's Office, 1777 Sixth St., or mailed applications can be requested by phone at 303-441-3994.
All completed applications must be turned in and signed at the Sheriff's Office in person. An appointment will then be scheduled to have a photograph and set of prints taken.
Permits are good for five years and can be renewed.
Also required:
$152.50 in fees to pay for local, state and national criminal history checks, fingerprinting services and other costs.
Proof of residency
Documentation demonstrating competence with a handgun, such as a copy of a training certificate proving completion of a handgun-safety class
To qualify, applicants:
Must be 21 or older, or at least 18 for a temporary, emergency permit
Must be eligible to possess a firearm under federal law
Must not have been convicted of perjury
Must not chronically and habitually use alcohol or be addicted to a controlled substance
Must not be subject to any restraining order
Source: Boulder County Sheriff's Office
Brian Malte, state legislative director for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence in Washington, D.C., agreed that the database is important.
"We feel very strongly that law enforcement not only needs access to those who have been issued concealed-handgun permits, but it needs to be readily available," Malte said. "There needs to be a swift and rapid system to revoke a license of someone who's fallen into a prohibited category."
For his legislative efforts, Pelle said he's been placed on a "hate-mail list" by pro-gun groups, including Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, the largest Colorado gun lobby.
Dudley Brown, executive director of the group, is critical of Pelle for his use of the permit database.
"We believe it's entering law-abiding citizens into a criminal database that makes them at grave risk to overzealous law enforcement, and it puts them in a very precarious situation," Brown said. "We'll be fighting for its repeal."
Brown, who said his organization believes "More guns means less crime," said Colorado is "in the middle of the pack" when it comes to gun legislation. He said carrying a concealed weapon is the "accepted means" of self-defense in the United States.
He said he thinks more and more people are getting concealed-carry permits in Colorado because it's now easier and more streamlined for people to do so.
"Clearly, the decade-long debate that ended in 2003 let a lot of people know that a concealed-weapon permit was an option, and a lot of people chose it," Brown said. "I believe the reason you see these kinds of numbers from Boulder County is that even liberals are starting to understand it's a civil right to be able to defend yourself."
Guns and students can
be 'a dangerous mix'
Brown and his pro-gun lobby also are critical of the University of Colorado regents, who have banned the carrying of firearms on the CU campus with the exception of police storage areas for students living in residence halls.
"We have challenged the regents to overturn that ban, not only for students but for visitors on campus," Brown said. "We think it's morally and ethically outrageous that they would deny a 23-year-old nursing student the right to defend herself when she gets out of a late-night class."
CU's policy prohibits the possession of any "dangerous or illegal weapon that could be an instrument of offensive or defensive combat; anything used or designed to be used in destroying, defeating or injuring a person; an instrument designed or likely to produce bodily harm; or an instrument by the use of which a fatal wound could be given."
CU police Cmdr. Brad Wiesley said he couldn't recall an incident in at least the past four years in which a person was caught carrying a concealed handgun on campus property.
Guns, by the numbers
1,462 Total number of active concealed-handgun permits in Boulder County.
258 Number of concealed-carry permits issued in Boulder County so far this year, and the most issued here during the past four years.
27,370 Total number of concealed permits issued in Colorado from 2003 to 2006.
10th Where Boulder County ranks statewide in the number of concealed-carry permits issued from 2003 to 2006. Per capita, Boulder County ranks 55th in permits issued during the same time period.
In August, however, 19-year-old CU student Matthew Furnish received one year of probation and was suspended from the university for two years after pleading guilty to unlawful conduct on public property in connection with a cache of weapons and ammunition police found in his dorm room.
Wiesley said students generally make good use of the police gun lockers that offer 24-hour access.
"If people want to engage in legal firearms-related activities, and they happen to live on campus, we want to be able to allow them to pursue their hobbies," Wiesley said. "We just don't want those weapons spread around campus in the residence halls or family housing."
All this week beginning Monday, college students from more than 110 campuses, including CU, plan to show up to classes wearing empty handgun holsters in protest of state laws and campus rules prohibiting the carrying of a concealed handgun on school grounds.
"Individuals who are licensed by their state to carry concealed handguns in places like movie theaters, office buildings, shopping malls and pretty much everywhere else should be afforded that same privilege on college campuses," said Scott Lewis, spokesman for Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, the national nonprofit group organizing the protest. "The practical point of the protest is to start a dialogue with people who may not be aware that concealed-carry laws exist, or that the laws are different on campus than they are elsewhere."
CU Regent Stephen Ludwig — an Aurora Democrat who, during his campaign for office last year, was critical of an endorsement given by the Pikes Peak Firearms Coalition to his Republican opponent, Brian Davidson — defended CU's gun policy as being "wise."
"Allowing concealed permits on campus invites a lot of problems," Ludwig said. "I think when you mix young people who are experimenting with alcohol, living in tight quarters, and firearms — I think that's a dangerous mix."
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Stop illegal immigration to protect illegals
Smugglers Torture Illegal Immigrants in Phoenix Drop House
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303798,00.html
Sunday, October 21, 2007
AP
PHOENIX — Police raided a drop house for illegal immigrants and discovered several, including a pregnant woman, whose handlers had beaten and tortured them, authorities said.
Police took 54 people into custody after the raid Friday, including four children and seven suspected smugglers.
One man's head had been wrapped in a plastic bag and submerged in a waste-filled toilet, said Maricopa County sheriff's spokesman Capt. Paul Chagolla. The man's pregnant wife was severely beaten and will probably lose her baby, he said.
Deputies are investigating reports that smugglers held at least five other immigrants at gunpoint and demanded more money.
Women and children were screaming inside the home when deputies entered, Chagolla said. There was little food and no furniture inside, he said.
"Toilets were filled with human waste and buckets were dispersed throughout the house as makeshift toilets," he said.
Sheriff's officials learned of the drop house during an investigation into human smuggling, Chagolla said. The home is the third discovered in a ring of related drop houses, and 80 people have been arrested under immigration laws, Chagolla said.
The seven suspected smugglers arrested Friday were booked on charges of aggravated assault, kidnapping, illegal control of an enterprise and human smuggling for profit.
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I am against illegal aliens, but when they are victims, we need to stop this problem not only to protect our own people, but them too. Close the border, remove the business' which draw illegals, and enforce the laws already on the books. Our removal of illegals protects them, and that is a fact. Maybe it would drive them to overtake the problems back in their homes and improve things there.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,303798,00.html
Sunday, October 21, 2007
AP
PHOENIX — Police raided a drop house for illegal immigrants and discovered several, including a pregnant woman, whose handlers had beaten and tortured them, authorities said.
Police took 54 people into custody after the raid Friday, including four children and seven suspected smugglers.
One man's head had been wrapped in a plastic bag and submerged in a waste-filled toilet, said Maricopa County sheriff's spokesman Capt. Paul Chagolla. The man's pregnant wife was severely beaten and will probably lose her baby, he said.
Deputies are investigating reports that smugglers held at least five other immigrants at gunpoint and demanded more money.
Women and children were screaming inside the home when deputies entered, Chagolla said. There was little food and no furniture inside, he said.
"Toilets were filled with human waste and buckets were dispersed throughout the house as makeshift toilets," he said.
Sheriff's officials learned of the drop house during an investigation into human smuggling, Chagolla said. The home is the third discovered in a ring of related drop houses, and 80 people have been arrested under immigration laws, Chagolla said.
The seven suspected smugglers arrested Friday were booked on charges of aggravated assault, kidnapping, illegal control of an enterprise and human smuggling for profit.
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I am against illegal aliens, but when they are victims, we need to stop this problem not only to protect our own people, but them too. Close the border, remove the business' which draw illegals, and enforce the laws already on the books. Our removal of illegals protects them, and that is a fact. Maybe it would drive them to overtake the problems back in their homes and improve things there.
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